Same-Sex Unions

LAST CALL?

Jewish World Review

Homosexual marriage is not a civil rights issue.

After thinking about this more I think you should move to approve.

Actually, some people prefer that civil unions should be offered but that same-sex couple's legal rights are still a civil rights issue, no?

I like it but don't you think we have it covered here:

What legal rights to a relationship of consenting adults should be available for same-sex couples?

I feel like we're tyring to make a point by framing the issue this way, which would mean it's a little overkill on top of what already exists on the site. Talk about it being a civil rights issue in your opinion on the issue above. Right?

From Sullivan's blog:

17 Dec 2008 03:02 pm
Ugh

Rick Warren will give the invocation at Obama's inauguration. Warren is a man who believes my marriage removes his freedom of speech and cannot say that authorizing torture is a moral failing. Shrewd politics, but if anyone is under any illusion that Obama is interested in advancing gay equality, they should probably sober up now. He won't be as bad as the Clintons (who, among leading Democrats, could?), but pandering to Christianists at his inauguration is a depressing omen. More evidence that a civil rights movement needs to realize that no politician can deliver for us what we have to deliver on our own.

 that could work for me too...whatever incarnation of semantics it takes, let's agree to find the solution, because this is an issue at the summit of Mount Zeitgeist.

What about "Is same-sex marriage an equal rights issue?"  That takes the whole CRM vs. crm debate out of it and still asks essentially the same question.

But the Dan Savage evidence makes the case for it as a lower case civil rights movement.  I posted this because early on weren't we, along with Brian, discussing the distinction between a civil rights movement and THE Civil Rights Movement, and thereby would people who don't like the two being equated, as Hughley does not, have their opinions posted as "no" for the issue proposed, should it remain close to how it's worded now?

@MikeD: I had seen that a couple days after the interview, but again, D.L. doesn't say it's not a civil rights issue, he just thinks it's "kind of wrong" that people equate it to the struggle of African-Americans... that seems like a different debate than just asking if it's a civil rights issue, though.